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 Post Topic: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 22.01.2012, 21:30 
{UPDATE}

Hey everyone; just thought I would update you all with the latest happenings of my rig.

I have bought some new bigger desks and new AC and finally bought all the other parts I wanted except for the GPUs.

I now have two cases that I have modded and joined together as one large case; they are the Cooler Master HAF 932 and the Cooler Master HAF X. The HAF 932 houses my GPUs, some of my HDDs and the 750w PSU. The HAF X houses the CPU, RAM, Motherboard, the rest of my HDDs and 1200w PSU. Here are my current specs:


[In the HAF X]
CPU – Intel Core i7 3930K @ 5GHz
CPU Cooler – Noctua NH-D14
RAM – 32GB DDR3 @ 2000MHz
PSU – Antec 1200w
HDDs – 5x400GB HDDs
Motherboard – Asus Rampage IV Extreme

[In the HAF 932]
GPUs – 2x Nvidia GTX 470s in SLI
HDDs – 3x2TB HDDs, 1x1.5TB HDD and 1x1TB HDD
PSU – Antec 750w


I can't decide if I should go and get 3 or 4 GTX 680s (4GB versions) or wait for the GK110 GPUs :S Either way I will probably use one of my GTX 470s as a PhysX card.

I will post a few pics of my new setup soon for those of you who are interested.
:)

{END OF UPDATE}

Hello again everyone, time for another question from me, just in case you were not sick of hearing from me yet ;)

I am planning on doing an upgrade of my rig fairly soon, (saved up a fair amount of money from working, Christmas and my birthday), and I want to know what you people think. I am planning on really starting to get into developing in CryEngine 3 seriously and I want the right tools for the job.

I know Nvidia are going to release their new GPUs soon and that will bring the prices of the current ones down a little bit, I know this as this is how I got my GTX470s :P I need to know just how well CryEngine 3 scales with SLI. I know the next update will have SLI fixes but will it improve the SLI scalability? Remember I am running 3x 42 inch screens in Nvidia Surround :P

Now for the CPU, I know Intel are going to be releasing some Ivy Bridge CPUs soon and that should make the Sandy Bridge CPUs prices come down slightly. How well does CryEngine 3 scale with multiple cores? Specifically 6 cores and 12 threads. And what sort of clock speeds will I need to be running to have CryEngine 3 happily let me edit a densely populated, large map?

Now for the memory, how well does CryEngine 3 utilise memory? I have 24GB now and will my next upgrade I will be going to 32GB, so it doesn’t really matter; I would just like to know :)




Now for the specs:

CPU
- Intel Core i7 3930K - 3.2GHz - 6 Core - 12 Thread - 12MB Cache - Socket 2011

RAM
- 32GB DDR3 Memory - 1600MHz - 8x4GB DIMMs

Motherboard
- ASUS Rampage IV Extreme - Socket 2011

HDDs
- 1x1.5TB as main system drive

- 1x1TB HDD, 3x2TB HDDs and 5x400GB HDDs (9TB Total) as data drives

GPUs
- 4x Nvidia GTX580s (3GB models) in 4 way SLI

PSUs
- [PSU 1] Antec 1200w (for powering the everything and 2 of the GPUs)

- [PSU 2]Antec 750w (for powering only the other 2 GPUs)

Cases:
- [Case 1] Cooler Master HAF 932 (for holding the 750w PSU and only the GPUs in a custom made rack with PCI-E extenders going to the motherboard in the other case.

- [Case 2] Cooler Master HAF X (for holding the 1200w PSU and the rest of the system)



Anyways, this upgrade will probably happen in April (after the releases have happened and I have saved up a bit more money :P) Let me know what you people think :)

P.S. My current rig is in my signature so you can compare and figure out what parts I will be keeping and what parts I will be upgrading.



Regards,
Tyron


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PostPosted 22.01.2012, 22:27 
That sounds like a monster. I would assume you need some additional cooling to keep everything at decent temperatures.

How can you even afford this? Did you rob a bank?
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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 22.01.2012, 22:37 
*shifty eyes* Rob a bank? No. What would give you that idea? :whistle: I have been saving for a while, got a fair bit of money for Christmas and my birthday was at the beginning of the month, so I got a few bucks there too :D

Yeah, got an AC in my room so that does the trick. Considering this is going to be a quad GPU machine though I am going to get cards with very good coolers, I am looking at the Gainward Nvidia GeForce GTX 580 3GB Phantom. It has a nice cooler on it. It is thicker than the average double slot GPU cooler though. But that is no problem as I am going to build a custom rack to hold all 4 of the GPUs in a completely separate case to the rest of the system and use PCI-E extenders to link them together. That way I will get really good airflow and heat dissipation.

Most people would tell me to get water-cooling with a system like this, but I hate water-cooling, it is just too much trouble :P
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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 23.01.2012, 01:47 
i'd get a new car instead :P

seriously...such system is just a waste of money. as long as you dont want to do scientific math, professional offline rendering or the likes, you'll never even closely utilize such a system. there's close to nothing that would even use more than 8gb of ram, more than 2 gig of gpu ram and i dont see any sense in rendering everything at 300fps (except for the obvious comparison of certain body parts of course...). and dude, 10TB of harddrives? there's not enough porn in the world to fill those up! ^^

but seriously...go to your local charity institution instead, they will do good with your money! ;)

just saying...
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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 23.01.2012, 02:36 
Haha, after this upgrade a new video camera and then a car are both on my list for future things to get :P

And my current amount of HDD space is running low (I have 2TB free of 8.5TB), so I need a bit more space, just in case. You see I only buy HD movies from iTunes and they take up a lot more space than a regular movie does. Plus then I still need space for my downloads, pictures, music, games and backups. Also I keep my porn on an external HDD so no-one will find it ;)

I currently have 24GB RAM and when I am creating terrains I really push my RAM usage. I have Mudbox, Maya, CryEngine, World Machine, Photoshop and Media Player all open (I like some music while I work) my RAM usage goes right up past 20GB.

As for the GPU memory, I have 3x 42 inch screens running in Nvidia Surround at a resolution of 5760x1080. Try playing GTA IV with ICEnhancer and all the settings cranked up to the max, then come back and tell me that I won’t need more than 2GB of graphics memory xD Or, go and create a densely populated jungle on an 8KMx8KM map in CryEngine 3 with all the effects and settings turned up and see how that works out. And when CE3 gets DX11 it will be even more demanding.

I mentioned getting a new camera earlier in this post, I am starting to learn film and stuff for school and I make my own short films. I use my computers (I have 4 desktops and 2 laptops) to render scenes for my films across my network. It takes ages for complex scenes, so having a fair bit of extra power won’t hurt :D

I included a few pics of my rig to show you what it looks like :)

Just sayin’ xD
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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 23.01.2012, 11:35 
Magnificent rig, but there's a problem with the rest of us  :rolleyes:

No one will be able to play your maps  ;)

Oh, and if you have excess parts, send them to me...


Zip-line release 2012-04-24 (for CE2 & CE3) · C1 mod project: A mod called Entry
Assets · Blender: Destroyable object tutorial for CryBlend

- currently lost in New Eden -


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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 23.01.2012, 11:50 
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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 23.01.2012, 12:17 
More like NASA. Gotta say I agree with Olli. Your money, though. If you end up buying this beast of a machine I hope you have fun with it.
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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 23.01.2012, 12:35 
Don't spend it all at once, the rig you're planning sounds like you'll need to spare a stash of extra money for the electricity bill. ;)

Oh, and PLEASE use that monster for something else than playing Minecraft at 5760x1080... :puppy:
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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 23.01.2012, 13:07 
Quote by Talvipakkanen:
Magnificent rig, but there's a problem with the rest of us :rolleyes:

No one will be able to play your maps ;)

Oh, and if you have excess parts, send them to me...


Well I guess I will have to create awesome maps and then test them on my lower end PCs and just optimize, optimize, optimize :P

Quote by The Vulture:
More like NASA. Gotta say I agree with Olli. Your money, though. If you end up buying this beast of a machine I hope you have fun with it.


I am sure I will have a lot of fun with it, I mean I practically live in my room anyway :P

Quote by the_grim:
Don't spend it all at once, the rig you're planning sounds like you'll need to spare a stash of extra money for the electricity bill. ;)

Oh, and PLEASE use that monster for something else than playing Minecraft at 5760x1080... :puppy:


The electricity bill is still my parents problem for a few more years ;) And I play all kinds of things :P Here are a few more pics :D And to be honest I don't really like Minecraft all that much. I prefer games like Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout 3, GTA and Mass Effect :)

Quote by da3dsoul:
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Sure would explain how I could afford to buy this stuff xD


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Wow, just look at all the smilies :baby:
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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 25.01.2012, 04:07 
lol... I'm working on an Alienware m17x-r2 laptop which was 3000,- at the time I bought it, and I thought I had a beast rig LOL

I gotta ask you this though, isn't it terribly annoying to have those display bezels in the way? I'm still deciding wether to buy a triple monitor setup or a single beamer


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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 25.01.2012, 05:51 
Quote by tinypaperclip:
lol... I'm working on an Alienware m17x-r2 laptop which was 3000,- at the time I bought it, and I thought I had a beast rig LOL

I gotta ask you this though, isn't it terribly annoying to have those display bezels in the way? I'm still deciding wether to buy a triple monitor setup or a single beamer


Back in the day I had only 1x 24 inch monitor hooked up to my 9600GT, and I was happy with it. Then Nvidia came out with this Surround thing where you could hook up 3 screens for an increased view. This really caught my attention, but I had one main concern; the bezels. After a few weeks of research and counting my money over and over again, I decided to bite the bullet and do it. I went out and bought me 2x Nvidia GTX260s and 2x cheap 22 inch monitors. I set up my surround system with the 2x 22 inch screens on the sides and the 24 inch in the middle (each screen had the same res - 1920x1090). I really thought the size difference and bezels would get on my nerves. But after playing Just Cause 2, Burnout Paradise and a few more games, I realised that after a while you don't even see the bezels, it all just looks like 1 huge display.

I was happy with that set up for about 8 months. During those 8 months Nvidia had released the 500 series which had pushed down the prices of the 400 series a fair amount. So I thought that it was time for an upgrade. I sold my GTX260s and my 3 screens and I put my old 9600GT back in and used a spare 24 inch monitor that I borrowed from my Grandfather. Those were the most painful weeks of my computing life. It is almost impossible to go back to one screen after getting used to three. So when I got the money together I ran out and bought 2x GTX470s and 3x 42 inch TVs. Buying the TVs was the hard part. The reason for this is when I connected a PC to the TV downstairs in the lounge room; the text quality was shocking as a result of oversized pixels or just a generally bad quality panel. I was determined to have the text quality of a regular monitor on my TVs. So for a few weeks I went around to every place I could think about that sold TVs. I took my laptop with me so I could plug it in and test the text quality. Some of the places were not too happy to let me do that, but when I told them I was buying 3, they changed their minds. Eventually I found ones that had perfect pixel size and crystal clear text; the exact same quality as a regular monitor. I am very happy with these TVs, probably the best investment I have ever made.

Now that you know my life story, back to your main question; are the bezels annoying? No, they are not. After a while you forget they are there. But I must warn you, after you game on 3 screens, you never want to go back to a single monitor ever again :P

P.S. I included a pic of my old rig with the 2x 22 inch screens and the 1x 24 inch :)
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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 25.01.2012, 12:13 
TV's eh? I've got a 50 inch tv in the living room but the quality to me when i hook it up is horrid, i'd rather have high pixel density, this screen is 1920 x 1200 at 17 inch, its small but atleast its sharp lol

but damn, i would so love to do this on your displays :P headtracking couldn't be more immersive (except with HMD's but that stuff is way too expensive)


Heh, I can't imagine what i would do with such huge screens... make a scaleform menu with a sexy AI voice and kinect support, feeling like a boss.

You know what they say about people that have big things :rolleyes:


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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 25.01.2012, 13:25 
Quote by tinypaperclip:
TV's eh? I've got a 50 inch tv in the living room but the quality to me when i hook it up is horrid, i'd rather have high pixel density, this screen is 1920 x 1200 at 17 inch, its small but atleast its sharp lol

but damn, i would so love to do this on your displays :P headtracking couldn't be more immersive (except with HMD's but that stuff is way too expensive)


Heh, I can't imagine what i would do with such huge screens... make a scaleform menu with a sexy AI voice and kinect support, feeling like a boss.

You know what they say about people that have big things :rolleyes:


You can do some amazing things with screens like this :D And when we get Scaleform in CE3 I might just do that as I already have a Kinect hooked up to my PC :) And as for what they say; it is all lies. I got 126 inches of fun on my desk and a fair few inches of fun somewhere else too, just ask any goth chick who knows me ;)

As I said, the quality of these screens are amazing, identical to what you will get on an average 24 inch computer monitor, the text is crisp and clear and the details are sharp. Though it will never compete against the amazing quality of an Alienware display (my friend has an Alienware M17x, you can see him holding it if you search The TyTan Dev Team) but then again, you won't really find any TV or regular desktop monitor that could rival the display of an Alienware laptop.
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 Post Topic: Re: Huge Computer Upgrade - What Do You Think?
PostPosted 26.01.2012, 01:28 
Hey Zira, just read this post from top to bottom and congrats on your system (main one) and also on your whole setup!!!! My rig is in my signature and I love it ( i would say its mid range performance in the current market) but I have to ask what tv models you purchased. I have a few tvs, 42" and 32" vizios and a 55" samsung, but even at 1080p rez they all are just terrible on the text looking sharp. The 42" is better than the 55 and 32 though oddly. Anyhow please share as I may want to buy something similar once I upgrade my GPU's thanks :happy:


OS: WIN 7 ULT x64
CASE: Corsair 800-D
MOBO: ASUS Maximus IV Extreme
CPU: Core i7 2600k
RAM: 16gb Ripjaws DDR3 1600
GPU: Nvidia GTX 580
PSU: Corsair AX 1200
HDD-1: 128gb Plextor SSD sata 6gbs
HDD-2: 2tb Hitachi HDD sata 6gbs