I'm sorry to disappoint you. This is as far as I'm willing to go here - I don't really find much flaw in my screenshots and I'm really not seeing what it is you see in those CE2 screenshots in order to be able to improve my scene. You still didn't mention by the way, what it is in the CE2 screenshots that's so good - you only mentioned what there is to improve in my screenshots (by quoting VinoBob and iniside instead of applying your own criticism).

For your pleasure, I skimmed through 60 first pages of the original Cryengine Art Thread. Here are some of the best ones I found (most by chicken, Puppy and Vulture):








There are surprisingly few "palm beach" shots to compare. Most of the scenes are really absolutely nothing special, and by no means "better" than your average CE3 scene. The above shots look very nice but nothing too spectacular. Puppy's and Vulture's banana plantations are always nice to look at, though not very valid comparisons to my palm scenes for example (and do you still wonder why there are so many of those banana plantation scenes in the CE2 art thread but not in the CE3 art thread? Because it's a Crysis map).

For the record, there are maybe 5 tropical shots in the first 60 pages of the CE3 art thread (yes I just browsed it through). Do you seriously expect them to be better than the few good-looking ones out of hundreds of CE2 shots?


Plastix: Reflection amount = specular power. It's realistic, live with it.

The only one thing matter - desired effect.

What is it that you lack in desired effect? Just increase specular power in your material. If you don't like the pronounced highlight from your lightsource then, simply decrease the specular amount of the light / sunlight.

[EDIT] I'm trying to find a CE2 picture of a palm tree against the sky to do a proper comparison with my attempt. I can't find any good-looking ones. These don't even come close in my opinion:




My picture seems to be better by far:

Again, that sounds so baffling and ridiculous.

Actually so ridiculous that not sure if it would make sense to discuss further with you.

Because either you might have quite a bad taste or you might have quite a different taste.

Who knows which term would be more appropriate.

And, no, that still is not necessarily meant to insult you.


Which is absolutely fine when you just agree with what they wrote, isn't it?

But you not even seem to understand that either?

Never mind.

By the way, what "Plastix" wrote on the last page seems to be quite accurate and not that farfetched:


Exactly.

You (meaning "the_grim" and others) always seem to write that Crysis 2 / CE3 would be so much better than Crysis 1 / CE2 in almost every regard but then you suddenly come up with an argument like:




That really seems to be ridiculous.

Why can't you just show how you put those newer/better features to good use instead and post as good or ideally even better tropical scenes for example taking advantage of the advanced capabilities of Crysis 2 / CE3, instead of actually suggesting to turn those features/capabilities off? That sounds ridiculous and not like a good argument at all.

Therefore the reaction from "Plastix" seems to be quite understandable, don't you think?

But then again, for some inexplicable reason, you actually seem to think you have surpassed or matched what was achieved with Crysis 1 / CE2 in that (tropical) regard so far already, so you might be the wrong to ask ?

Also, what "Plastix" wrote there:


does not seem to be that farfetched as well.

Because that is exactly what many of the tropical pictures wich were posted in the Crysis 2 / CE3 section of the forum here seem to reflect as well for example: either they seem to be overdone ("too much") or they seem to "lack" something ("not enough").

Although those are not the most "technical terms", but still.

Sorry, double post, please delete.

puppy knows how to use those features drop me a line (although not too many lines ) if you need some help

If i`ll decrease specular amount of the light / sunlight this will kill speculars on other materials. Also i`m talking ONLY about reflections (environment/cube maps) and not about speculars. I dont wanna touch speculars at all.

This thread has gotten ridiculous. We're willing to have an open discussion of engine features on these forums but if you'll repeatedly insist on ignoring the sensible suggestion that aesthetics and graphical capabilities are only tenuously linked, then this thread will carry on forever.